Punkvoter Lies
Revealing the lies, inaccuracies, and ignorance of punkvoter.com.

July 01, 2004
Then why hasn't Bush been impeached?
If all these conspiracies are true, then why hasn't Bush been impeached?

If he's not impeached because you think all politicians are corrupt, then why isn't there a public outcry for an impeachment?

If you think the public is too stupid to want to impeach Bush, then why does that make Punkvoter smarter than everyone else, since they are a collection of some of the most unproductive people in society?

Punkvoter opposes capitalism in Iraq
This one was so outrageous that I found it funny. Punkvoter said:
"According to economist Paul Krugman of the New York Times we gave Iraq some of our worse habits like privatization, cronyism, and lowering taxes for the new big businesses of Iraq."
So privatization and lowering taxes are bad? As you can see, these highly unintelligent punks have their ideals rooted in socialism.

They oppose privatization. Privatization is when a service is provided by NORMAL PEOPLE like you and me and not the government. The opposite is GOVERNMENT CONTROL. They portray Paul Bremer as an advocate for the privatization of factories, as if that's a bad thing! Would they like the government to run all of the factories here in the US?

They also oppose lowering taxes on big businesses, as if big businesses should be punished by raising taxes on them. Bush lowered taxes here in the US and it has fueled the economic recovery we are experiencing. And if you think we are not in the middle of economic recovery (despite having a 5.6% unemployment rate) then look no further than the fact that Punkvoter stopped talking about it. They're no longer trying to scare the kids into thinking that Bush has doomed our economy. Because they were WRONG.

What was gained by going to Iraq?
Punkvoter claims we gained nothing.

We just liberated an entire country. We are DECIMATING the insurgency. (Don't let the headlines get you down. For every unfortunate American casualty, there are a dozen insurgents killed or captured.) Saddam Hussein is going on trial.

Evidence of WMDs is surfacing slowly. (Joe at Anti-Anti-Flag.com does a good job pointing these things out.) Recently Secretary Rumsfeld said this about what the Polish Army has found in Iraq:
"Right now you have the Iraqi Survey Group, which is a multinational group that’s out there reviewing documentation and looking at suspect WMD sites. I was with the Polish minister of defense this weekend in Istanbul, Turkey at the NATO Summit. And in the course of that, he pointed out that his troops in Iraq had recently come across – I’ve forgotten the number, but something like 16 or 17 – warheads that contained sarin and mustard gas.

If you think about -- most people remember the image of where Saddam Hussein was captured in that hole -- that pit that he was living in. That pit, that hole in the ground was probably big enough to hold chemical and biological weapons sufficient to kill tens of thousands of people. And therefore, it is not hard to hide things in a country the size of California. It’s quite easy to hide things. In fact, we finally found a bunch of jet aircraft that they’ve buried underground."
Here is a great article talking about the benefits of the war:
"The war has had enormous beneficial effects with minimal negative consequences. A terrible tyrant was taken down. The filling of mass graves with 300,000 corpses were stopped. Plastic shredders for human beings were deactivated. Prisons for four to twelve year olds were closed. A democratic constitution has been drafted. Two-thirds of al-Qaeda’s leadership is gone. There hasn’t been a terrorist attack in America in more than two and a half years, something no one would have predicted after 9/11. By any objective standard, the Bush war on terror is a triumph."
ANd here is my favorite. This is what Bush himself said recently:
"The terrorists who attacked our country on September the 11th, 2001 were not protesting our policies; they were protesting our existence. Some say that by fighting the terrorists abroad since September the 11th, we only stir up a hornets' nest. But the terrorists who struck that day were stirred up already. If America were not fighting terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere, what would these thousands of killers do? Suddenly begin leading productive lives of service and charity? Would the terrorists who beheaded an American on camera just be quiet, peaceful citizens, if America had not liberated Iraq? We're dealing here with killers who have made the death of Americans the calling of their lives, and America has made a decision about these terrorists. Instead of waiting for them to strike again in our midst, we will take the fight to the enemy."

Moore lies
I think alot of the reason Punkvoter started is because these guys have fallen into the Michael Moore conspiracy trap. Now that his BOGUS movie is in the theaters there are alot of reviews that point out how much the facts are skewed in the movie and how lies are blatantly told. Here is one from Slate:
"If we were going to make sure no Taliban or al-Qaida forces survived or escaped, we would have had to be more ruthless than I suspect that Mr. Moore is really recommending. And these are simply observations on what is "in" the film. If we turn to the facts that are deliberately left out, we discover that there is an emerging Afghan army, that the country is now a joint NATO responsibility and thus under the protection of the broadest military alliance in history, that it has a new constitution and is preparing against hellish odds to hold a general election, and that at least a million and a half of its former refugees have opted to return. I don't think a pipeline is being constructed yet, not that Afghanistan couldn't do with a pipeline."
To make things worse, Richard Clarke recently made a statement that debunks much of the basis of Moore's movie. It turns out that Clarke was the one who ordered the bin Laden family to be flown out of the US shortly after 9/11. Moore tries to turn this into a big Bush conspiracy but it was Clarke all along. (Ironically Moore used Clarked as a major source for his movie.)

There is this column by former NYC mayor Ed Koch (a Democrat) where he recalls Michael Moore comparing the terrorist insurgents in Iraq to American revolution minutemen (the same terrorists that have been cutting off people's heads and trying to stop democracy from being established). Ed Koch makes a great point that Moore, if living in the 1940s, would have opposed World War II. He also recalls Moore playing down the threat of terrorism by saying, "It is three times more likely that you will be struck by lightening than die from an act of terror." Well yes, that's probably true, but who would win the war against terror if we ignored it?

Michael Moore is a news source for Punkvoter. Conspiracy theories for conspiracy theorists.

If education funding is so bad...
...Then why is there a $2 billion surplus in education funding? Why is the federal government telling the states to "spend it or lose it"?

Don't believe this Punkvoter pessimism. More and more their posts resemble the Democrat party talking points of the day, which is just a bunch of desperate political attacks that never stick.

Bogus Bush story
I read the story that Punkvoter posted about Bush being crazy (from this Capitol Hill Blue story) and believing he was sent by God and acting paranoid all the time. It makes absolutely no sense. The story claims he is fixated on nothing but the 2004 election but meanwhile, in other news stories, Bush instead appears to be fixated on foreign policy and visits to other countries.

So how does a relatively unknown news site like Capitol Hill Blue have such an inside scoop with White House sources and yet NO OTHER NEWS AGENCY has reported this? Time magazine had an inside the White House story the following week and made no mention of Bush's "erratic behavior". This would be a much bigger story if it were true because all the Bush haters would be eating it up.

Then again, you won't believe that if you believe in conspiracy theories. You'll still believe that Bush controls the media.

Rigged LA Times poll
In an attempt to link Bush's declining approval ratings to the release of their Rock Against Bush cd (which I know was supposed to be a joke), Punkvoter used an LA Times poll that showed John Kerry beating George W Bush by 7 points.

But the poll wasn't accurate. On June 15 Roll Call (as reported by World Net Daily) points out that the poll was made up of more Democrats than Republicans: 38% Democrats and 25% Republicans.

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